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the election about the fiscal cliff. what is at stake here for both sides? what happens if they don't get a deal? >> well, look. i think what happens to both sides, it's not even what happens to both sides, what happens to us which is the collective, right? it's what happens to the country which is 4% of gdp disappears overnight. and that's what this is all about. by the way, it's not just about what happens january 1st or 11:59 the day before january 1st. it's already starting to impact the economy. whether it impacts consumers -- and we'll find out today, by the way, in terms of thanksgiving and what's that meant, whether consumers are coming out or not -- but thoorz the bigger issue that manufacturing has already started to slow down. people are starting to worry. it may end up in the economic numbers already, just the fact that we're having this debate. and then come january 1st, do we go over? what does that mean? is it the fiscal cliff? or does it look like the fiscal bungee cord? that's what some people are calling it. we go over for two weeks and then we snap back and get a deal a
weeks after the longest, most expensive and exhausting election in u.s. history eyes are turning to 2016 as speculation begins over the next batch of candidates lining up to run for president. >> who could that be? i know it's going to be a surprise. >> i know it is too. we're moving past these dynasties. >> exactly. >> of ruled politics for decades. republican up and comer jeb bush jr. says he would love to see his dad run for president, and rand paul says he's going to follow in his pop's footsteps too and hillary is going to run too. do you have to be related to somebody who has been president of the united states or run for president of the united states to actually do that yourself? >> i think that's what makes the names. here's jeb jr. >> your dad going to run for president? >> i don't know. no comment. i certainly hope so. >> which is it, i don't know or no comment? >> i think it's the i hope so. >> you said, i don't know, no comment, and i hope so, which are all kind of contradictory. >> give me the full loaf of bread right there. >> word is out of florida jeb is lining up for 20
off by possibly electing a bush when you have history of bush for eight years, clinton for eight years, obama for eight years, another bush when there was actually, you know -- well, wait, bush, clinton, bush, obama, bush. >> that's probably due for another obama. i think bush like christie is a republican who has crossover appeal. he has tremendous support among hispanics because of his position on immigration reform. tonight i'm going to be with governor bush. we are doing an event in washington talking about the need for educational reform as a big national security challenge unless we get k-12 education right, we're now not going to get this country right. and the fact that someone like jeb bush has become one of the principal champions of education reform has shown me how republicans can have appeal if they go beyond the narrow agenda. >> what do you think? >> i think he has enormous appeal. he's a very attractive candidate. and as richard pointed out, he is not the republican candidate we've seen in the past couple of elections. i mean, he has enormous appeal to the hispanic comm
since the election. there's no doubt about it. i think john, you'd verify this. number of republicans, i've talked to a couple of united states senators who said there's at least 10 to 12 republican senators who are willing to walk away from grover norquist on the tax pledge. >> it's breaking out all over. sanity is contagious. >> now, the question is, is the president going to stay where he is and go, you know what? we're going to do it my way or no other way? we're going to raise it to 90 -- to 39.6%. steve rattner had a great column yesterday. >> it's a must-read. >> you know there's more than one way to skin a cat, more than one way to raise over a trillion dollars in revenues. it doesn't just have to be the president's way. is the white house going to insist on the 39.6% tax rate, or will they consider the loophole part of it plus capital gains, plus a couple of other things? >> well, it looks to me like the white house has learned something over the course of the last four years which is that you don't start a negotiation by negotiating against yourself. >> right. >> you know, the
optimistic, a lot are arguing you have fewer people in the middle in both parties as a result of the election and don't have democrats willing to make the concessions of on spending cuts and health care, medicare as you don't have republicans on one side, but i think -- i had bob corker on yesterday or the day before with klim clyburn yesterday and they were praise ing -- clyburn was praising what corker had to say. the president has a lot of leverage. what he said to congressman cummings, don't pack your bags. we're going to be around pore a while. i have alan simpson coming on our show. >> fantastic. >> all right, andrea mitchell. 1:00, thanks. >> thank you so much, andrea. up next, baseball loses marvin miller. if you don't know the name, you ought to know the name. perhaps the most influential figure -- >> absolutely. >> baseball but also in the history of professional sports. mike barnicle will help explain why. sports is next. two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. to
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